Roots and Vegetation causing subsidence

Roots and Vegetation causing subsidence

Postby Runningclub » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:43 pm

Our neighbour has made a claim against his insurance company for subsidence (cracks have appeared in the back extension to his house) and the insurance company have written to us telling us that the vegetation in our garden is implicated in this and have asked us to remove a number of shrubs. We have pointed out to the insurance company that a majority of the shrubs named by them are situated in an above ground planter which sits on solid marble. They have now agreed that these do not need to be removed. However, there is one remaining shrub, a ceanothus, which is planted in the ground and which they persist in saying needs to be removed. Its height is less than the distance from the building which has suffered the cracks and its roots have not been identified in the bore hole dug by the insurance company. However, we are on heavy clay soil and the insurance company's investigations have found that this is 'dessicated' due to moisture removal from vegetation. We are extremely loath to remove the ceanothus, but my question is, are we obliged to, to avoid the possibility of any claims being made against us in the future should further subsidence occur? Any advice would be very gratefully received.
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Re: Roots and Vegetation causing subsidence

Postby Treeman » Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:02 pm

They are chancing it, they need to bring empirical evidence if they want to make you remove it. Tell them it’s put up or shut up time
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Re: Roots and Vegetation causing subsidence

Postby Runningclub » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:27 am

Thank you so much! A great relief. We will do just as you say (but might not use quite the same choice of words!).
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Re: Roots and Vegetation causing subsidence

Postby despair » Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:54 pm

It would need to be a really huge Ceonanthus to cause that kind of problem

Leylandi might be a different story
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Re: Roots and Vegetation causing subsidence

Postby Treeman » Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:28 pm

You clearly don’t understand the way the subsidence thing works so in the interest of keeping this forum accurate………….A plant does not have to be large to be implicated in damage, if its roots are found in a trial pit it is implicated, it may not be the whole cause, it is entirely possible that vegetation situated on other land is also implicated and or the trial pits have missed other vegetation, trial pits are a keyhole technique and investigation an on going process.

Your unwarranted prejudices against Leylandii are misinformation, biologically speaking leylandii are no more likely to cause desiccation than any other vegetation.
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