Japanese Knotweed in properties in the area

Japanese Knotweed in properties in the area

Postby Eliza » Sat May 16, 2015 6:53 pm

Having moved from an area where this isn't a problem to one where it is - I have found that there are several properties in the town I have moved to that have JK on their land. This concerns me - because of the tendency for JK to spread (via its roots - hence this sub-forum) and the pretty laissez-faire attitude some people here seem to have to it :shock:

One property particularly concerns me - as it was quite clear last year that the owner knows they have JK in their garden - but only seems to be dealing with it in a pretty half-hearted way. The property concerned has the JK growing on (and over) the boundary it shares with a public road. The JK is back again there this year and popping out over the boundary onto public territory. I can see its growing through the boundary walls of this house and have now found a 2" shoot of it on the grass verge the other side of this owners boundary wall (ie an area where the local Council come along strimming at intervals). I removed that shoot as best I could - but it will obviously grow back again and, at the rate JK grows = agh!

Having followed my first instincts (ie last year) to make sure the house-owner knew what that odd plant in their garden is, I expected them to act responsibly and deal with it properly. I'm now at a loss as to what to do next to make sure this does get dealt with properly and (most to the point) that the Council strimmer doesn't come along and strim growth on that grass verge to bits and spread it around. My second attempt to deal with this property was to tell the estate agent selling next door neighbours house about it (ie so that he would make sure the vendor knew and would put pressure on their neighbour to deal with it). That neighbouring house has recently been sold and I've found that the new owner hadn't been told about the JK by either the estate agent or vendor and they were obviously shocked when I told them about it - so fingers crossed they might put some pressure on the neighbour now to deal with it.

Thoughts crossing my mind that maybe I should go to the Highways Dept of the County Council and drop into conversation the fact that Councils etc now have to pay hefty fines if they help promulgate JK and strimming it would surely come under that heading.

I'm generally at a bit of a loss as to how deal with these recalcitrant property owners all round - ie to ensure their irresponsible attitude to dealing with their JK doesn't impact on the rest of us.

Anyone been in this position? I am wondering whats the best thing to do to get this sorted out.
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Re: Japanese Knotweed in properties in the area

Postby arborlad » Sat May 16, 2015 8:55 pm

Eliza wrote:One property particularly concerns me -



How far is it from your property?
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Re: Japanese Knotweed in properties in the area

Postby Eliza » Sun May 17, 2015 6:41 am

Not my next door neighbour - but its bang right next to a road I (and a lot of other people) go up frequently - and that includes those Council workers strimming the grass verge besides it (ie where I have just spotted a JK seedling growing). About 5 minutes walk away from me in the same road - and I plan on having this house for the rest of my life (ie an estimated 20 years or so approximately I presume....). Add the fact that some mortgage companies won't give mortgages if JK is in the same road (and it is.....) and obviously I might get lucky enough to be able to change my plans and sell the house and move back to my home area (well you never know.... 8) ).

I don't anticipate it "heading in my direction" this year or next - but, over the course of the next few years then I fear it leapfrogging. Someone (lout, child or Council worker) spreads it to a few feet nearer me, then someone else spreads it to a few feet nearer me and so on. I don't know how long this stuff takes to "leapfrog" down the length of a road. I've read someone complaining that it spread to 5 metres nearer them in just one year.

It is totally impossible to deal with if it gets as far as my garden - because I grow food in my garden (organically) - and therefore any usage of nasty chemicals to deal with it has to be done at some point before it ever got near my ground iyswim.
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Re: Japanese Knotweed in properties in the area

Postby Collaborate » Sun May 17, 2015 10:29 am

Contact Natural England and the Environment Agency (see here) https://www.gov.uk/prevent-the-spread-o ... ive-plants

They can (should) be prosecuted if they allow the JKW to spread beyond their boundaries, and if they clear it, they should use only specialist contractors.

The LA may be committing an offence if, by trimming, they allow contaminated cuttings to spread.

If I were you I'd start with the EA and tell the landowner and LA about the potential offices they may be committing.
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Re: Japanese Knotweed in properties in the area

Postby Eliza » Sun May 17, 2015 2:23 pm

I am thinking along the lines of warning the Council they could be in trouble if they strim that grass verge.

For information - I've moved from England to Wales and hence gone from "never seen JK before" to "Oh heck - it IS rather a problem around here". :(

I've been doing a bit of further checking this morning re that irresponsible garden-owner (as I could see the JK emerging through their garden wall this year). I told that land-owner last year about it and was told its being dealt with. However, I checked GoogleMaps this morning and the image of that property is from 2011 and I can spot the JK in the garden then. That means they've had it in their garden for at least 4 years - so much for telling me (in 2014) that they were dealing with it... :roll:
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Re: Japanese Knotweed in properties in the area

Postby arborlad » Sun May 17, 2015 4:27 pm

Eliza wrote:For information - I've moved from England to Wales and hence gone from "never seen JK before" to "Oh heck - it IS rather a problem around here". :(



Oh please............let's try and keep at least a semblance of fact here.
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Re: Japanese Knotweed in properties in the area

Postby Eliza » Mon May 18, 2015 7:05 am

Puzzled????

Fact = I had never seen JK before moving. It must be there - somewhere - in my last county (ie because the County Council has found some somewhere) - but I have never seen any.

Hence my shock/astonishment at finding some people that have it aren't dealing with it appropriately. I just found clear evidence re that about one of them yesterday - ie a Google Streetview clearly showing it on their property in the photograph and it's still there (despite the photo being taken in 2011 and JK eradication programmes take up to 3 years). That home-owner has obviously had JK for at least 4 years and that 2011 photo makes it quite plain they didn't get straight "on the case".
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Re: Japanese Knotweed in properties in the area

Postby MacadamB53 » Mon May 18, 2015 8:13 am

Hi Eliza,

it is not illegal to have JK on your own land.
it is illegal to allow it to spread on to your neighbours' land.

has the homeowner with JK allowed it to spread?
has the homeowner with JK been served a notice ordering him to carry out preventative measures?

sounds like the answer to both is "no", so what's your problem?

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Re: Japanese Knotweed in properties in the area

Postby arborlad » Mon May 18, 2015 9:36 am

Eliza wrote: I can see its growing through the boundary walls of this house and have now found a 2" shoot of it on the grass verge the other side of this owners boundary wall (ie an area where the local Council come along strimming at intervals). I removed that shoot as best I could - but it will obviously grow back again and, at the rate JK grows = agh!



Your actions were at best irresponsible and have quite likely made matters worse - what did you do with the removed shoot?
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Re: Japanese Knotweed in properties in the area

Postby mr sheen » Mon May 18, 2015 3:53 pm

The regulations regarding invasive species are complex, but can be found online via the relevant agencies.

You shouldn't have lifted a root. Best to check one is complying with all the rules oneself before seeking to shop others.
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