Safe way to cut down conifers?

Re: Safe way to cut down conifers?

Postby ukmicky » Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:23 am

Roblewis wrote:Yes it is but you do not use that action alone to fell a tree safely in a controlled manner. As mentioned above balance is also key to the final direction. Lumberjacks may well do it alone without other measures in open woodland/forest but they also have their failures except no buildings etc are at risk



You seen this rob , the op should get the neighbour hire these people


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Re: Safe way to cut down conifers?

Postby arborlad » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:30 am

ukmicky wrote:
Roblewis wrote:Yes it is but you do not use that action alone to fell a tree safely in a controlled manner. As mentioned above balance is also key to the final direction. Lumberjacks may well do it alone without other measures in open woodland/forest but they also have their failures except no buildings etc are at risk



You seen this rob , the op should get the neighbour hire these people


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JJXPXTaVlMY.



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Re: Safe way to cut down conifers?

Postby Roblewis » Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:40 am

Yeah - a couple of experts and a lot of luck as witnessed by the end thanks. The dickless gnome however lives next door to the OP :D :D :D Anyway Douglas firs are very good straight growers
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Re: Safe way to cut down conifers?

Postby arborlad » Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:07 pm

Roblewis wrote: The dickless gnome however lives next door to the OP :D :D :D



The comment has greater significance when read in conjunction with these two threads:

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Re: Safe way to cut down conifers?

Postby Roblewis » Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:59 pm

I rest my case :D
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Re: Safe way to cut down conifers?

Postby Collaborate » Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:05 pm

Many thanks for the links, arboreal.

Is Thin and Crispy running for parliament? They'd have my vote.
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Re: Safe way to cut down conifers?

Postby Holst2 » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:01 am

Fortunately Thin and Crispy has gone!

Arbourlad et al. Why do you think that is funny? It is not clever to belittle someones spiritual beleiefs. Would you insult a Muslim or Bhuddist? And what has it got to do with the subject of this thread?

But thank you to everyone else who has given me helpful advice on this very worrying problem.

MacadamB53 the knotch IS the sum total of his methods. He hasnt used a rope or anything to guide the trees. They just fall wherever thay will.

If he did damage my bungalow or shed throuh his reckless appraoch to the task, would this fall under the Criminal Damage law? I understand it is Criminal Damage to damage somebodies property through reckless disregard? Is that right?
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Re: Safe way to cut down conifers?

Postby arborlad » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:18 am

Collaborate wrote:Many thanks for the links, arboreal.

Is Thin and Crispy running for parliament? They'd have my vote.



You're welcome, she hasn't posted for a while but is still a member. It is obvious from the replies that her contributions were eagerly awaited for the high level of humour they contained.
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Re: Safe way to cut down conifers?

Postby Collaborate » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:42 am

Holst2 wrote:If he did damage my bungalow or shed throuh his reckless appraoch to the task, would this fall under the Criminal Damage law? I understand it is Criminal Damage to damage somebodies property through reckless disregard? Is that right?


There would certainly be civil consequences (small claims court). Possibly also criminal, but the police may view it as simply an accident and leave it at that. Certainly your route to compensation would be via the civil courts.
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Re: Safe way to cut down conifers?

Postby Holst2 » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:44 am

Arbourlad I take it the that you cant come up with a an answer to my question. Why do you think it is acceptable to insult someones beliefs??

Collaborate thatnk you for your reply. So do I just have to wait for the damage to occur before the law will do anything?
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Re: Safe way to cut down conifers?

Postby Collaborate » Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:23 am

Holst2 wrote:Arbourlad I take it the that you cant come up with a an answer to my question. Why do you think it is acceptable to insult someones beliefs??

Collaborate thatnk you for your reply. So do I just have to wait for the damage to occur before the law will do anything?


I would just wait and see what happens.

If you apply for a pre-emptive injunction you simply may not get it. Then you'd be saddled with having to pay your costs and their costs. Compare that to the cost of a new fence.

I know you've mentioned a fear that a tree may fall on your house. How likely is that really? Are any trees tall enough to threaten your house? How did the tree that caused minor damage to a fence actually cause the damage? I'm guessing it was a bit too close to the face so that when it fell the back end of it kicked back in to your fence. If you're minded to apply for an injunction you'd definitely need to instruct a solicitor (it's too technical to deal with yourself), and I wouldn't even see one unless a tree specialist had done a report for me saying the risk of damage to your house was realistic.

As for your beliefs, of course they're not relevant to this thread. However, surely you must have been able to forsee that people will take the piss? I mean, it's hardly mainstream is it. If people can't take the piss out of your beliefs, they can't take the piss out of anyone's. Anyway, I think it has all been gentle and good natured. You should just shrug it off. The world would be a very dull place if we couldn't say or write anything that causes upset to anyone. What if your beliefs offend someone? Would you think you should keep quiet about them?
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Re: Safe way to cut down conifers?

Postby Treeman » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:06 pm

Holst2 wrote:Arbourlad I take it the that you cant come up with a an answer to my question. Why do you think it is acceptable to insult someones beliefs??

Collaborate thatnk you for your reply. So do I just have to wait for the damage to occur before the law will do anything?



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Re: Safe way to cut down conifers?

Postby thin and crispy » Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:00 am

Ah, so now I know what prompted arborlad to bump my Biodynamics thread up.

arborlad wrote:...she hasn't posted for a while but is still a member. It is obvious from the replies that her contributions were eagerly awaited for the high level of humour they contained.

Thanks for compliment arborlad. But "she"? And "her"? Methinks there's an excess of perceived dicklessness in this thread. Last time I looked I was all man ... and ever so butch.

For the avoidance of doubt here's a photograph of my amusingly shaped pinus. At nearly three feet from the base to the tip, it'd be far too much for any woman to handle. Only a real man could carry a pinus sylvestris that big back from the garden centre all by themselves!

Collaborate wrote:Is Thin and Crispy running for parliament? They'd have my vote.

Thanks Collaborate. Maybe I could be the Right Honourable Member for Littlehampton South.


Holst2: for what it's worth, I also think it's unsafe to fell a large tree intact so close to a neighbouring property. If you think it might damage your house, why not contact your insurers. They would, at least, like to be forewarned of an impending risk, and they might even be able to offer some useful advice.
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Re: Safe way to cut down conifers?

Postby syl2 » Sat May 02, 2015 6:07 pm

Your neighbour with no money - does he own the house? I assume so if he is carrying out major destructive work to the garden. If not, speak with the owner. If so, next time you converse and the issue comes up, let him know that you've spoken with your insurer and if there is any damage, they will repair it all and then sue him to recover their losses - the equity in his house should cover it.

At the end of the day they're his trees and if wants them gone, then gone they will go. Might at least make him think about doing it safely though. You could always plant your own trees, on your land, if you have enjoyed his so much all this time.
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