Neighbours electricity cable runs through our property

Re: Neighbours electricity cable runs through our property

Postby mr sheen » Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:12 am

What do you intend to do in 6months time when they have done nothing about it?
You can't interfere with their electricity supply, you would likely be arrested.
If you give ultimatums it's essential to have a clear strategy about steps after expiry of the ultimatum.
Sending solicitors letters is likely to be fruitless, people are much more savvy these days about the futility of letters from solicitors. So ??court??....very risky..you will have the burden of proof and will have to prove that an elec supply that is de facto in situ has no right to be there.
Or have you got another plan?
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Re: Neighbours electricity cable runs through our property

Postby syl2 » Sun Apr 12, 2015 9:02 am

Get an electrician round to look at the supply. Ask him if it meets the regulations for when it was installed, particularly regarding voltage drop and capacity. If it doesn't, call building control at the council and get them to make the neighbours disconnect it or upgrade it to something appropriate.
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Re: Neighbours electricity cable runs through our property

Postby Roblewis » Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:04 pm

This story might set some questions buzzing. Just how good is the supply post meter? This suggests the suppliers do have powers to act in some situations

http://www.theguardian.com/money/2012/m ... l-monopoly
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Re: Neighbours electricity cable runs through our property

Postby ukmicky » Sun Apr 12, 2015 2:04 pm

Roblewis wrote:This story might set some questions buzzing. Just how good is the supply post meter? This suggests the suppliers do have powers to act in some situations

http://www.theguardian.com/money/2012/m ... l-monopoly


That story is about the main supply cable running to the house from the road and is pre meter .
Advice given is not legally qualified and you are advised to gain a professional opinion
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Re: Neighbours electricity cable runs through our property

Postby jdfi » Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:59 am

Bizarre.

At work this week (facilities management company) we've just handled a request from a utility company to put a cable through our office car park - negotiations are being done and a wayleave will be put in place when a five figure payment is received.

Why don't you apply for planning permission for a garden extension/to build an outbuilding? When it's granted you may be in a better position to force it's removal.

Or get someone wlth a JCB to dig through it, annd refuse to grant access to fix it.

How do they drive to their house? Is that over other land? Or yours?
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Re: Neighbours electricity cable runs through our property

Postby Roblewis » Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:02 pm

ukmicky wrote:
Roblewis wrote:This story might set some questions buzzing. Just how good is the supply post meter? This suggests the suppliers do have powers to act in some situations

http://www.theguardian.com/money/2012/m ... l-monopoly


That story is about the main supply cable running to the house from the road and is pre meter .



Yep I know but my ancient cogs think that there seem to be underlying concerns in some cases that even post meter could affect the mains supply and thus may be of interest to the supply company. This supply seems to be very unusual and I am wondering if there is a clause buried deep in the regs that might cover such private line quality
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Re: Neighbours electricity cable runs through our property

Postby Jillycookstown » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:12 pm

They drive over my land to reach their house and have had the cheek to dig up our land to stop their access flooding. They have gained access rights as the drive had been used for 20 years, but I want to mark the boundary and put an unlocked gate up, they are threatening an interdict if we mark our boundary they must have plenty money to be able to pay all the lawyers fees. However I doubt it, I think it is more due to their mental health issues that I am having so many issues with them
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Re: Neighbours electricity cable runs through our property

Postby Jillycookstown » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:17 pm

You would hope there is, but neither the utility company or the network company have anything to do with the line from the meter. The only advice I have seen is around the Health and Safety Executive
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Re: Neighbours electricity cable runs through our property

Postby jdfi » Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:43 am

I think we need to see a sketch diagram showing: boundaries of your land and theirs, location of the drive over which they have access, and location of this cable.

Do you accept that they have a right to use your drive?
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Re: Neighbours electricity cable runs through our property

Postby jonahinoz » Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:15 am

Hi,

If the electric cables have been moved since 2005, Part P requires the work to have been done by, or signed off by, a competent electician. (I'm sure somebody here can rephrase that in more technical terms).

From your description of "dangling wires", I wonder if a competent electrician would have have signed it off?

At about the same time as Part P was introduced, the colour coding of wires was changed, so if the wires are the new colours, it is evidence that they were installed after 2005, or shortly before. The old colours have not been allowed since 2005.

I don't know what teeth Part P has, but I'd guess they include pulling the main fuse, or removing the meter. That might concentrate your neighbour's minds.

<<< They have gained access rights as the drive had been used for 20 years, >>>

Er ... I would have expected your neighbours to have a documented right to cross your land, in their "deeds", or yours. The "20 years" only applies if they did NOT have permission to cross your land, and have done so at least once each year for 20 consecutive years.
If anybody gave them permission, that permission can be withdrawn. Or so I believe.

John W



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Re: Neighbours electricity cable runs through our property

Postby Clifford Pope » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:41 pm

jonahinoz wrote:
<<< They have gained access rights as the drive had been used for 20 years, >>>



Their agent has been crossing the land about 50 times per second. :)
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Re: Neighbours electricity cable runs through our property

Postby Jillycookstown » Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:25 pm

Good news on my post, it turns out that SP Energy Networks have no Wayleave for the supply/box to be on my house so they are resisting it out of my property.
My question now is this has cost us a lot of money, for something that should never have been on our property. I would like to get some cost back, but who is liable
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Re: Neighbours electricity cable runs through our property

Postby Jillycookstown » Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:29 pm

The access on the title is in a different place than the actual access, not sure if that makes a difference, however we will be putting an unlocked gate at the top and bottom of the access route to mark our boundary as we plan to develop this in the future and will use the current drive for access
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Re: Neighbours electricity cable runs through our property

Postby Jillycookstown » Thu Aug 04, 2016 2:03 am

Update, after a lot of researching and discussions with the power company, it turned out there was no Wayleave for them to have the power in and on our property so we gave the power company a notice to quit, they then had to move their equipment, resulting in the neighbour's having to pay a substantial sum to get reconnected.
However it does not look like the neighbour is going to move all their cables etc. We would do it ourselves if we could, but we would need specialist equipment and a cherry picker as the wires at one end are bolted to the wall and at the other on a pole. So we are still stuck with it, but at least it's no longer a danger as no electricity run through it.
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Re: Neighbours electricity cable runs through our property

Postby despair » Thu Aug 04, 2016 8:15 am

If the electricity company installed that lot illegally on your walls they are responsible for removal and costs of rectification

If the neighbours did it sue them in the Small Claims Court

but kick up a fuss with electricity company first
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