Neighbour doesn't want to replace their fence

Re: Neighbour doesn't want to replace their fence

Postby despair » Sat Mar 28, 2015 11:03 am

pictures 2 ,8 and 13 would be the commonest ones I saw in NZ

but also I saw the metal ones

had other things to do than take photos of their construction to please you

could be they are using timbers less prone to rot

I did though notice that cross timbers were rebated or the panels were made rather stronger than typical ones here and always secured so backs of fence or the panels pretty closely abutted the boundary thus not loosing much land

I will see if my relatives can send me photos of the metal fences because I have not seen them here
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Re: Neighbour doesn't want to replace their fence

Postby arsie » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:02 pm

You don't have to please me despair - I am just trying to help make sense of your words. You can obviously follow a link - such as the one I researched and posted - but either can't or won't give evidence, in the form of a link to a page on the World Wide Web, to support your own words.
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Re: Neighbour doesn't want to replace their fence

Postby arborlad » Sat Mar 28, 2015 2:17 pm

despair wrote:had other things to do than take photos of their construction to please you



Of course you did, but that didn't prevent you returning and making comments in an attempt to denigrate an entire industry.


despair wrote:and theres a lot fencers here could learn
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Re: Neighbour doesn't want to replace their fence

Postby arborlad » Sat Mar 28, 2015 3:17 pm

nothingtodowithme wrote:
despair wrote:If the UK built close board fences the way they do in New Zealand there would only be 1inch loss of land
better still we should use the galvanised metal fences they have in Australia and NZ
far better than the rot fence posts suffer here and a nice choice of colours too




I like those fences; they sell them here in the u.k in Gloucester and as you say they have a nice choice of colours(powder coated).
Rot proof and fire proof as well as aesthetically pleasing to look at.
They have my vote!



I think it's highly unlikely that you and despair are talking about the same product, but a link or a photo would dispel all doubt.
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Re: Neighbour doesn't want to replace their fence

Postby arborlad » Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:05 pm

ukmicky wrote:arborlad


Do you hand cut your mortise and tenon joints or use the galvanised brackets.



Not as a matter of course, the posts come pre-morticed and the rails pre-shaped - which is a rounded taper, rather than a true tenon - which would give you a weak point in the rail. Like a panel fence is seldom a multiple of 6' + post, a closeboard fence will also require the cutting and shaping of two or three rails, so a sharp adze is always carried, along with all the usual drills etc.

Galvanised brackets - more properly called arris rail repair brackets are always there when a repair needs to be made, but incorporating them into a new fence?..............absolutely never.
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Re: Neighbour doesn't want to replace their fence

Postby despair » Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:25 pm

Try these for the metal fencing in New Zealand

www.metalcraftgroup.co.nz

www.mrf.co.nz/colour-screen-fencing.html
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Re: Neighbour doesn't want to replace their fence

Postby alyson » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:29 am

despair wrote:Try these for the metal fencing in New Zealand

http://www.metalcraftgroup.co.nz

http://www.mrf.co.nz/colour-screen-fencing.html


Geeees those are ugly!
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Re: Neighbour doesn't want to replace their fence

Postby arsie » Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:37 am

Thanks for the links despair. I see now. They look very durable.
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Re: Neighbour doesn't want to replace their fence

Postby despair » Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:55 am

Defintely durable and actually in the right colours for the suroundings they are definitely not ugly
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Re: Neighbour doesn't want to replace their fence

Postby arsie » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:22 pm

Agree they don't look bad for urban use. Not so sure about rural - green and pleasant land etc
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Re: Neighbour doesn't want to replace their fence

Postby despair » Sun Mar 29, 2015 5:09 pm

Watching the wind causing my trellis panels to sway despite good quality posts in metposts and now facing argument with post supplier i would prefer metal posts anyday
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Re: Neighbour doesn't want to replace their fence

Postby ukmicky » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:41 am

despair wrote:Watching the wind causing my trellis panels to sway despite good quality posts in metposts and now facing argument with post supplier i would prefer metal posts anyday



I've never known a metposts on a fence of 5 foot or more to last very long.
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Re: Neighbour doesn't want to replace their fence

Postby despair » Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:01 am

posts into concrete in the soil no matter who has done them last even less time

has to be something in soil or atmosphere or quality of the wood

in the past I have soaked base of posts in creosote but that made no difference

I have found metposts to be best solution overall
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Re: Neighbour doesn't want to replace their fence

Postby arborlad » Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:22 pm

despair wrote:and theres a lot fencers here could learn


despair wrote:Watching the wind causing my trellis panels to sway despite good quality posts in metposts and now facing argument with post supplier i would prefer metal posts anyday



Not sure any of us here are qualified to comment on that - ask your new found experts in New Zealand.
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Re: Neighbour doesn't want to replace their fence

Postby jdfi » Sat Apr 04, 2015 4:29 pm

stufe35 wrote:I'm racking my brains to remember what the fences were like in Neighbours !

Come on despair pic required,

I'm not sure we could use their posts up here though....would the points not be on the wrong end ?

Cheers. Stu


About 20 years ago, there was a boundary dispute in 'neighbours'
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