Increase height from neighbours

Increase height from neighbours

Postby sfoxyroxy » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:03 pm

We have some very noisy neighbours with lots of children, with a trampoline right next to our fence. We tried to discuss increasing the height of our fence so that we can have some privacy and hopefully to decrease the noise. Its a Housing Association property so we approached them first and they visited these tenants to discuss this issue. We then received via email, permission from the Association stating that they gave permission as well as the tenants agreeing also to increase the height of our existing fence to over 2 metres. When the contractors arrived to do the work, our neighbours then said that they would get the council to take the fence down as we did not have planning permission although i reminded them that we had permission from the Association as well as themselves. Despite trying our best to keep things civil this has not worked. We also understand that if planning permission was sought that we would then require planning permission for anything further that we decide to do in our house, build a conservatory.... anything. So we thought about planting fast growing Golden Llaylandii to form a hedge. Not too high but approx 2.4 metres. Just enough so that we cannot see the children bouncing on the trampoline and they cannot view into our garden or lounge.... Basically can anyone advise us so that we can live in our home in peace and privacy... Our house we have bought, our neighbours is a Housing Ass house. It seems that the law is on their side and we are beholden to them and their whims.
What can we do ????
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Re: Increase height from neighbours

Postby despair » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:13 pm

Regretably my very personal view is move

If the tenants behave like that they wont change and if you plant Leylandi they will no doubt start complaining abiout them too or try using the High Hedge Law
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Re: Increase height from neighbours

Postby sfoxyroxy » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:17 pm

Yes quite possibly... can i sue the Housing Ass for planting horrible tenants !!! :)
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Re: Increase height from neighbours

Postby despair » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:26 pm

If only you could sue the HA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mind you i would plant a thick Leylandi hedge first before you try moving and hope whoever buys your house has even more horrible kids !!!
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Re: Increase height from neighbours

Postby Mattylad » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:30 pm

What makes you think that just because you apply for pp for a fence you need it for anything else?

Apply for PP, put a fence up and continue as is.
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Re: Increase height from neighbours

Postby sfoxyroxy » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:33 pm

I was advised by a solicitor that once you apply for PP on one thing that it takes away your other rights to build without it... something about a section 15 i think.... so trying to do it without is the best way.... Ring any bells....
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Re: Increase height from neighbours

Postby hzatph » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:49 pm

The neighbours are right sadly - you do need planning permission. Nip round and tlak to the planners and ask them about your concerns and also the factors that would be taken into account in a decision. Unlikely that you would lose permitted development rights.
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Re: Increase height from neighbours

Postby WILL*REMAIN*STRONG » Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:54 pm

Grow a hedge, not much they can do about that. Leylandii is best, fast growing and you can easily keep it to the height you want with a hedge trimmer. Neighbours like yours are a plague! If they fear privacy or feel shut out by privacy, they should live in a glass ball, paint themselves bright orange, call themselves nemo and blow bubbles out their blow holes. Why do these people think people want to see them at all, never mind insist on it? You have the right to enjoy your garden, as they do theirs. If you started to do something that grated on them everytime you used your garden, they would soon put up a tall fence of their own!
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Re: Increase height from neighbours

Postby appledore » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:19 pm

I think a leylandii hedge is a good idea too. A trim once a year with a hedge cutter is all that is required to keep it tidy.
Why do some people think it is ok to inflict their noisy kids on other people?
Keep calm and carry on.
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Re: Increase height from neighbours

Postby sfoxyroxy » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:14 pm

Yup, done some research... the golden lleylandii fast growing hedge... looks perfect for our needs. Still pending a call back from the HA, it seems that they are all at a conference today - nice to know they get their priorities right !!!! Anyone know how far away from our fence we need to plant this ???

Will keep you advised what happens, maybe the nasty neighbours get moved !! hey i can hope ! :D
Thanks for all your input.
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Re: Increase height from neighbours

Postby Mattylad » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:18 pm

Consider how to maintain the back of it when you do plant it.
It should IMO not be planted very close to the fence as it will spread as it grows and if it spreads onto the neighbours property you then become the NFH and they will be here posting about their neighbours lleylandi. :lol:
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Re: Increase height from neighbours

Postby despair » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:40 pm

IMHE ..............Golden Leylandi grow faster than leylandi and need to be planted a good 6 ft from a fence

As for claims they only need trimming once a year and are easy to maintain thats only if they are kept to a reasonable height

if you need them to be over 3 metres high then they are a major job to maintain and you may need to factor in costs of professional help

also you could loose the use of the land in front of the conifers

much depends on soil /rainfall /sun direction


Better to choose Pyracantha
Photinia Red Robin

as both can easily be maintained and Pyracantha will keep out invaders !!!
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Re: Increase height from neighbours

Postby WILL*REMAIN*STRONG » Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:38 am

despair wrote: Pyracantha will keep out invaders !!!


My husband’s parents have this as a hedge, it is marvellous stuff! The birds love it too.

A hedge can be made up of a variety of plants, a good garden centre or hedge specialist can recommend many alternatives if Leylandii is more maintenance than you want. My Nan had Leylandii and it was very easily kept, as it was never allowed to grow above 7ft or so. On the other hand, my parents bought a house with an enormous Leylandii hedge, all around the garden starting right at the house, that was a job for the professionals to tackle because it had been allowed to exceed 20ft!

Once you leave Leylandii for a few years, it will make you look tiny in that time! :shock: Still a wonderful hedge maker if you keep up the maintenance.
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Re: Increase height from neighbours

Postby sfoxyroxy » Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:40 am

Thanks all, we are going with the Lleylandii and will keep it in check. Having read the legislation about high hedges, did you know that it is only REASONABLE to consider a hedge a nuisance after 2 metres, NOT law !! There is no law stating that a hedge can only be as high as 2m, i was surprised by this....

Well we just want 2.4 metres, then our privacy will be returned.
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