Hedge wars

Re: Hedge wars

Postby stufe35 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:18 am

I have a development of the golden rule.....came from some management course I once went on...takes into account the fact that we are not all the same.

Treat others as they would like to be treated.

(Except of course your NPD neighbour)

Cheers Stu :lol:
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Re: Hedge wars

Postby stufe35 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:39 am

Despair, I went to a local shop which specialises in CCTV, they had lots set up which you could have ago with. Basically you buy a box which is a hard drive. Mine can take 4 cameras, you buy them separately and can get wide angle, for in your yard, or zoom for far away and everything In between . It's menu driven with a mouse very similar to your PC. You need an old tv or monitor. My system was just short of £400, we bought the cheapest box, it records on a continuous loop overwriting once the disk is full and holds about 5 weeks worth. You view the recordings via the menu and anything you want to keep you download using a memory stick in files of I hour at a time, and put on your PC. I rigged mine up my self, essentially it's just plug and play.

One thing I would say is mine being the cheapest .....the files from the CCTV system have to be converted to a different format once loaded on your PC...which is a bit of a pain. Next time I would spend the extra few quid on the next box up which uses PC format.

A few months back my neighbour threatened me verbally and took a swipe at me with his shovel...I had my phone on voice record in my pocket. I took the sound file and the video file into work and the IT team overlaid them for me so I now have a video nasty ! I think I could have done this myself it's wasn't difficult.

The piece of mind it provides is great, as when the police come round my nfh lies, police say your word against his, nothing we can do. The CCTV has changed all that and he ended up being dragged to the station for an official harassment warning.
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Re: Hedge wars

Postby COGGY » Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:11 am

Hi Nothingtodowithme

It is obvious that you have never been threatened by a neighbour, who said they would return with support. Nor have you ever been on the phone to the police in tears, terrified as to what may happen, to be refused help. A visit by the police at a later date resulted in an apology and being told they should have come and we were now on a quick response list. A reason given was the problems we were experiencing were not what would be expected in the area we live.

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Re: Hedge wars

Postby COGGY » Sat Mar 29, 2014 12:17 pm

Hi Nothingtodowithme

I have never suggested you were a gentleman. Neither have I "dragged you into my dispute". On the contrary if you read through your comments, it is you who have commented many times on things of which you quite obviously have no experience. You are not a better person than someone who has a neighbour dispute.

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Re: Hedge wars

Postby despair » Sat Mar 29, 2014 1:46 pm

Coggy and Stufe

thanks for the info

i did look at the top kit Maplins sell no one else near me at all

Its pretty sad to have to set up CCTV to protect oneself from lying deceiving bully neighbours intent on destroying ones piece of mind especially since the Police too often try to claim everything is "civil" when actually its harassment and criminal damage and a lot more besides
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Re: Hedge wars

Postby COGGY » Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:08 pm

Hi Despair

Ours came from CCTV Direct Ltd on line. It was expensive, over £1,000 but we were desperate and wanted to be certain it gave a good clear picture. We have three cameras, with facility for one more. The hard drive records for several months, I think about 8 but not sure, then it starts to overwrite. It tells you when doing this. We have it connected to a tv but do not have a mouse for it. It is controlled by buttons on the hard drive. Before buying it my other half had no knowledge of CCTV whatsoever. He received extremely good advice from the firm quoted. We originally obtained a quote from a local firm, which was for approx the same cost, including installation, but the equipment recommended was not as good. When replaying it can be speeded up to x128 or -4. Having learnt more about it and setting it to list when movement occurs in a given area it is quick to check and is checked twice each day. There are so many different types of camera besides different makes it is advisable to obtain advice from an expert. The type of camera of course depends on the siting of it.

We recorded the neighbour attempting to spray our plants within 24 hours of installation and showed this recording to the police. They checked the installation for us and stated it did not infringe the neighbour's rights to privacy. Despite the fact that she would stand in the road taking photos of us sitting in our garden we do not wish to see photos of them. When complaining of her action we were informed that it is legal to be in a public area and take photos of someone in their own garden, but not the other way around. Maybe I need to repeat for clarity that we have not taken photos of them apart from on CCTV when they are in our property/air space. :roll:

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Re: Hedge wars

Postby COGGY » Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:27 pm

Hi Despair
I have just been reading the emails from purchasing our CCTV. We first made contact with CCTV Direct in May 2012. We received advice by phone and several emails, thought about it for a while as it was a big purchase, then purchased at the start of August 2012. I can honestly say that we have been extremely pleased with our purchase. That is not to say other firms are not as good of course. The best thing I believe is to do as much research as necessary until you feel happy with your knowledge.

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Re: Hedge wars

Postby COGGY » Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:05 pm

Hi Optimistic One

We seem to have highjacked your thread. Sorry. Do you have any information as to when your fence will be erected?

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Re: Hedge wars

Postby stufe35 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:05 am

nothingtodowithme wrote:Start a new thread with your cctv loving buddies; I do not like the notion or the reality of spying on neighbours.


Don't get me wrong, I don't like having to have CCTV, I would have much rather spent my money on other things. I have to have it to protect myself, my family, and visitors to my property.
'I do not like the reality of' ......being sworn at, being threatened, being assaulted......but the final straw was when he made obscene gestures in front of my children...the police said without evidence it's your word against his. I took action....now I have evidence. I hope you can understand this.

And yes sorry optimistic one for hijacking your thread..perhaps we should have started a new one.

Cheers. Stu :lol:
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Re: Hedge wars

Postby despair » Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:37 pm

Stufe

I am with you 100%

I too have other things money needs spending on but like you without foolproof evidence bullies and liars win
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Re: Hedge wars

Postby stufe35 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:59 pm

Thanks despair..I think we have similar neighbours/experiences :lol:
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Re: Hedge wars

Postby COGGY » Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:34 am

Hi Optimistic One

It is two weeks since you posted on here. I apologise if we hogged your thread. Please up-date us on your fence issue. Has it been sorted yet, or are you still waiting for a fencer?

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Re: Hedge wars

Postby sadone » Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:44 am

Sorry all for not updating. I ducked out when bad vibes started... Fence: Still can't get hold of panels but no legal or other action from neighbour although he still acts up if we go into our garden, banging, loud music etc. Sad when people have to find things to do to try to annoy. We do have a fenceman lined up to do the work. We now have a Wheelchair Accessable Vehicle so we can escape unlike our neighbour who for a few weeks dare not leave the house unattended.

I am not monitoring this thread but look sometimes.

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Re: Hedge wars

Postby arborlad » Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:31 pm

arborlad wrote:
sadone wrote: The fence will be removed and replaced as quickly as we can possibly manage it...



How will the location of these fences differ, one from the other?


sadone wrote:By not a lot but it will be properly constructed, not held up by props, it will be used by us to support our plants,.



The neighbour erected a fence at what he concluded was the limit of his land, you contested this. You are now about to erect a fence in almost the same place, which will, in effect, be construed as the limit of your land, but you and others are happy that you will have somewhere pretty to support your plants. I don't think you are resolving any boundary issues.

The more correct a boundary feature is, in every respect, the less opportunity there is for contention.
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Re: Hedge wars

Postby COGGY » Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:04 pm

Hi Optimistic One

Mac and I have given you a new name. Do you like it?

Thank you for up-dating us. I hope you are able to get it sorted very very soon. Then you can enjoy this beautiful sunshine. You will also be able to get your plants growing up the new fence. Everything is growing at a great rate now, even the weeds we don't want! :lol:

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