housing association say my fruit tree has to be cut down??

housing association say my fruit tree has to be cut down??

Postby snowfurs33 » Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:53 pm

i will try to keep this as short as possible.

i rent a house from a housing association.

about 2 years ago the private owners next door got in touch with h association and told them that i took some of their land when i put a fence up around 7 years ago ,,the neighbours also told them that they want my fan trained fruit cherry tree taken down.

i am really quiet but the nasty neighbours are always on the phoning moaning at the housing association .........................the housing association told me that neighbours say they want tree taken down..
i told them no way
...............housing association told me that if tree is taken down they will buy me a new one. ..............
the housing association were trying their hardest to give neighbours everything they wanted

after much arguing and me getting in touch with mp etc, the housing association has decided to put up a new fence themselves .
i think new fence is going up around 5 inch away from my cherry tree..

the housing association has now told me that my tree is to be cut down,,they say that either the tree trunk/branches will damage the new fence or the roots will damage it.

this is total rubbish...the housing association are taking down my tree just to spite me.
if i could tell you all that has happened then you would agree that they are doing it just to spite me.

i have tried reasoning with them but they say tree is to be cut down 100%

i am so upset because tree gives me loads of fruit that i feed myself with and it also cost me quite a bit to buy new plus i then grew it on for about 6 years.
cherry trees are disappearing in our country as well so it is doubly sad if it has to be cut down.

are housing association allowed to cut down tree i planted ?
i rent the house off them so does that mean they own my tree and can do what they want with my property?

the housing association are acting like the mafia.
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Re: housing association say my fruit tree has to be cut down

Postby snowfurs33 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:46 pm

hi, sorry I have not explained very well.

the land does not belong to the neighbours.

the neighbours was lying , they said I had about a foot of their land so that if they got the foot back it would mean that cherry tree was on their land and then they would be able to cut my tree down..

after near 2 years of housing association trying their hardest to give the land away to the neighbours they have now eventually agreed that neighbours was trying it on and leaving land as it was which means tree is firmly in my /ha,s garden.

when new fence goes up my tree will be on my/housing associations land /garden by about 5 inch......
so there is no reason for tree to be cut down........

but h a are saying tree will damage new fence....this is rubbish as tree is flat fan trained with its roots underground.

is there anything I can do to save my tree.

I don,t really have anywhere else in the garden to put it...........I have read that a tree this age is pretty sure to die if you try to move it.........it also cost about £1000-£2000 to get someone to try and move it.
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Re: housing association say my fruit tree has to be cut down

Postby snowfurs33 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:44 pm

sorry I,m useless at trying to explain things without going into long full story.

about 7 years ago I paid someone to put up a 6 foot fence up to stop my cats getting out of the garden.
when fence was finished . I looked out of the bedroom window and noticed that the person who put the fence up had given away about 5 -6 inch of my/ha,s garden.............so the neighbours gained 5 inch of land.
I told neighbours who told me to leave it as it was as they don't want fence dug up again disputing their weekend.

I am very quiet and suffer badly from depression so I just left things as they was.....neighbours are not very nice people even though they are old....they have upset most people in our area.

about 2 years ago neighbours told me they wanted me to cut down my tree as it shades the wifes washing.............I said no I don't want to cut it down...........
not long after that the neighbours got in touch with housing association saying that when I had put fence up about 7 years ago I took about a foot of their land and they want land back and tree taken down..
they was lying......as I said before I accidently gave THEM land not the other way round as they was saying.
the neighbours are old in their 70,s-80,s and they have nasty children in their 50,s.......the one daughter in particular has been making my life a misery


one day a housing association worker come to me and the neighbours and from the start ha have tried as hard as they can to give the neighbours what they want...
they kept saying to me that neighbours insist land is theirs and I need to take tree down...they said they will buy me a replacement tree.


I did not want my tree taken down so I told housing association that they need to put fence back up in its original position before I gave a bit of garden away ....that way tree would be in my/ha garden and would not have to be cut down.

after much arguing housing association eventually agreed that fence will go back in original position.
the housing association sent me a detailed plan with a letter saying fence is going back up in original position and tree is firmly in my/ha,s garden and will not be cut down.

the day I received the letter I was woken up by next door neighbour screaming for me..he just opened my front door and come in my house. I heard him in front room and half way up my stairs screaming where are you......I just hid in bedroom.....luckily I have a dog who sleeps on bed with me so neighbour did not open my bedroom door as dog was barking nastily.
I take it he received letter off the housing association saying about the fence and was not very happy.

a few months later housing association changed their mind about fence going back in its original position...they kept saying the same thing again such as ...neighbours insist land is theirs..

I told housing association to look on the deeds and they will see where fence line is but housing association kept saying they have lost the deeds...........
I then got a copy from land registry gov showing that fence line is exactly where I say it is but they just ignored that.

eventually after getting other people involved and going through complaints procedure the housing association have again decided that fence will go back in original position...
this mean that neighbours have now lost the 5-6 inch of land that I gave them by accident around 7 years ago.
it now means that my tree when fence is put up will be 5-6 inch inside my/ha,s land.....5-6 inch away from fence and no where near it to damage it.

but housing association are saying tree is being cut down,,they said they own the land and can do what they want with my tree.

I have left out the unbelievable dirty tricks that the one housing association worker got up to.....because I complained about them I am now being punished by people higher up housing association chain.................

I just want to know if they can take my tree down as they tell me they can.
surely they can,t just destroy your property just because it is on their land you rent.
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Re: housing association say my fruit tree has to be cut down

Postby snowfurs33 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:55 pm

I do not have a tenancy agreement.
was I given one at one point..if so I have lost it.

I don't suppose its any use me asking for a new one to be sent because about 8 months ago a friend who works for a housing association told me that I need to phone up a certain department of my housing association and tell them that I am thinking of buying the house and would like a copy of the plans/deeds for the house..
the aim was for me to get the plans which would then show exactly where the fence line is so I could then give it to ha ............ha keeps saying they don,t know where original fence line is but I know full well they do...............

I phoned up and the lady told me that I need to ask normal ha worker for plans and not her.........I told her normal worker told me they have lost deeds............she seemed puzzled and said they would not be lost.
she said she would send them out with in a week.
they never turned up.........I re phoned and was told the lady is ill and they will get her to send plan when she returns.
..the plan never turned up..
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Re: housing association say my fruit tree has to be cut down

Postby snowfurs33 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 11:39 am

yes I will request agreement Monday.
I am going to try and move tree although it will most prob die due to its size.

do I have to have permission to do that or can I just dig it and move to another part of garden.

its seems to myself and other people that the housing association are determined to have my tree cut/killed to punish me for being such a pain in the backside this last 2 years,,and to please the neighbours ...so I,m expecting them to say either out right ,no you cannot move it for whatever made up reason or they will say something like you can move it but it will need to be 20 foot away from fences either side etc,,,
this would mean I cannot move it anywhere.
my garden is around 90 by 18 foot.

I just had letter to say tree will be taken down in a few days.
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Re: housing association say my fruit tree has to be cut down

Postby despair » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:28 pm

if the garden is 90ft long I see no reason why its not possible to move that apple tree especially from herein with autumn approaching

Victorians moved them very often to great advantage
Apple trees are not generally that deep rooted
prune the tree as far back as you dare to avoid it being stressed
With a sharp spade cut down to spade depth about 18inches from the trunk and either gently rake the soil away to expose the roots or then dig out the large root ball

ensure you have already dug a hole at least 18 inches deep and 3 ft diameter to drop the tree into and have some good compost to put around it

I have done it with 2 apples and I pear tree and they are fine
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Re: housing association say my fruit tree has to be cut down

Postby Mojisola » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:13 pm

pinkie wrote:It is not an apple tree.


Same advice applies to a cherry.
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Re: housing association say my fruit tree has to be cut down

Postby despair » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:33 pm

Sorry for saying Apple tree ..........but yes same advice for a cherry tree
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Re: housing association say my fruit tree has to be cut down

Postby Mojisola » Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:30 am

pinkie wrote:
Mojisola wrote:
pinkie wrote:It is not an apple tree.


Same advice applies to a cherry.


I would respectfully beg to differ. Cherries are not pruned at this time of year due to the risk of silver leaf disease.


Not the pruning - the moving.
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Re: housing association say my fruit tree has to be cut down

Postby Mojisola » Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:29 pm

A fan-trained tree shouldn't have too big a canopy. If there's any worry about the branches breaking during the move, tie a bamboo cane along each branch and tie the canes together at the base of the tree.
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