Any laws/restriction when erecting a driveway fence ?

Re: Any laws/restriction when erecting a driveway fence ?

Postby ElmerFudd » Fri May 26, 2017 5:06 pm

Not reported situation to councillor but Police have attended on each occasion an altercation has taken place and when threats of violence have been made, although Police claim warnings have been issued they say there's little they can do unless someone is assaulted and even then, it's your word against theirs and there's more of them backing each other up.

Police have said to go indoors if threatened and the last time I reported an incident to the Police, they just took details over the phone and I heard nothing more.

I've reported the situation to the Council but the Council just passed my complaint onto the Housing Association, who I'd already made many complaints to.
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Re: Any laws/restriction when erecting a driveway fence ?

Postby despair » Fri May 26, 2017 5:19 pm

Hence why you need to contact your local councillor
and its not good enough for the police to say go indoors

the local councillor will know whose cage to rattle at housing dept

CCTV would be very usefull as proof of whats going on
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Re: Any laws/restriction when erecting a driveway fence ?

Postby ElmerFudd » Sat May 27, 2017 12:57 am

Yeah, it's like banging my head against a wall.

My neighbours keep congregating and walking up and down my drive as if it's the pavement and are constantly in and out of their car, many times a day and through out the evening, always on my drive.

I'm threatened with violence, so have to consider installing CCTV and also a fence

If I end up erecting my own fence, I'll still have to install CCTV to try and catch the fence being damaged, another reason I would prefer the Housing Association to erect the fence.
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Re: Any laws/restriction when erecting a driveway fence ?

Postby despair » Sat May 27, 2017 7:54 am

the police are able to install CCTV for people who are being threatened

go higher in the police and contact your local councillor
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Re: Any laws/restriction when erecting a driveway fence ?

Postby SarahSue » Sat May 27, 2017 11:21 am

My sympathies to you ElmerFudd :(
It seems like the injunction idea will be hard to police, however annoying it is.
It sounds like the neighbours are trying to goad you and just causing more bad feeling by continuing to encroach on your property. I could advise you to ignore them but I know this is difficult, especially when they are deliberately encroaching onto your land. I had a not dissimilar situation.
I would advise you to put your fence up and start enjoying your property again. The main annoyance was the neighbours encroaching. Once you put something in place to stop that, hopefully that is the end of the matter. But if you are concerned about damage to the fence, do put in CCTV. You can get some quite cheap cameras now.
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Re: Any laws/restriction when erecting a driveway fence ?

Postby ElmerFudd » Sat May 27, 2017 1:44 pm

Thanks Sarahsue

Yeah, an injunction would probably be hard to Police but if it's possible to obtain one without it costing a fortune, the law would at least be on my side, especially if supported by CCTV footage.

For the Police to install CCTV the situation has to be far worse than what I'm currently experiencing and totally unprovoked. As my neighbours only make threats of violence when I've asked them not to congregate on my drive or when I've asked them to move items off my drive, in the eyes of the law, the threats can be prevented if I don't confront my neighbours.

It's not that I can't afford CCTV or a fence, it's just an expense I'd rather not have, even if I erect a fence at my expense on my property, I will still have to install CCTV as I believe my neighbour of their visitors will purposely damage the fence or reverse a car into it, knowing I'll have to pay for its repair. It's another reason I'd prefer the neighbours Housing Association to erect the fence.

I've contacted the Police and it just adds to the frustration of another organisation to be writing to, the Police see it as a civil dispute between neighbours and said they can only get involved if someone is assaulted and even than I will need witnesses or CCTV footage.
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Re: Any laws/restriction when erecting a driveway fence ?

Postby despair » Sat May 27, 2017 3:11 pm

i fully understand all of that but until you get on and contact your local councillor who is the one person to have influence with Housing Association the outcome you want is not going to happen
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Re: Any laws/restriction when erecting a driveway fence ?

Postby ElmerFudd » Sat May 27, 2017 3:48 pm

Thanks for your input dispair but what makes you think I'm not going to get the outcome I want?
I only responded to the Housing Association suggestion to erect a fence last week, so it's in my interest to see what they suggest next, as there are various reasons, which I've already mentioned, as why I would prefer the Housing Association to erect the fence.

If the Housing Association response is not acceptable and doesn't help resolve the situation, maybe then I will contact a local councillor but whatever happens, a fence will most definately be erected now I know there are no legislations that will prevent its installation
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Clarify fence height next to road/pavement ?

Postby arborlad » Mon May 29, 2017 8:00 am

ElmerFudd wrote:I know there's a restriction or maybe planning permission is required when erecting a fence taller this 1 meter and it's adjacent to a road or pavement but does this rulling apply when a fence is erected between the drivesways of two properties, which are side by side with only a driveway and garden on either side of the fence and only the edge of the fence post, maybe 8cm wide, will actually be facing the pavement and road ?



Not a good idea to start another thread about the same fence: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=20803&p=201867#p201867 It's an even worse idea for those members who should know better to respond to it :roll:

'Adjacent' is deliberately left open to allow for some interpretation but is sometimes assumed to be within two metres. It's often misconstrued to refer to sight-lines but is just as likely to be to preserve the street scene.

It matters not that it is between properties - there'll come a point where the fence is considered to be adjacent to the highway.
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Re: Any laws/restriction when erecting a driveway fence ?

Postby ElmerFudd » Mon May 29, 2017 10:35 am

arborlad thank you for your input

Although, It's not a good idea for you to decide where I post my questions or to reply to a post within a different thread either, as you're only confusing matters

I'm correct to open a different thread, as my original post asked a different question, one that has been answered.
Also, this thread digressed to questions relating to the Police, councillors and the Housing Association.

My other thread, a question about the height of a fence next to a road etc, is a totally different question and separate to this thread, the question doesn't repeat what has been discussed within this thread.

This thread has ran its course and I wanted a separate response, without replies being buried within the replies to this thread.

The answer to my other thread could also help forum members, who would probably miss replies that are buried on page 3 of this thread.

So, unless you have the power to delete my question/thread about the height of a fence next to a road, I would much prefer both threads to remain separate and answered separately.
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Re: Any laws/restriction when erecting a driveway fence ?

Postby SarahSue » Mon May 29, 2017 7:37 pm

I am in complete agreement with ElmerFudd here re starting separate threads. One particular issue has different elements and each of these often warrant a thread in a separate category. It can get complicated. My own issue began as wondering if I potentially had a boundary issue (posted in boundary section). I got excellent advice there from the good people on this forum. Once established that there was no boundary issue, my next dilemma was how to put up some kind of screening. I then posted in the fencing section. My next issue was that my neighbour had attempted to damage some bushes (caught on CCTV) and another thread in another section.
If people had read all this under one thread, they would have missed potentially some of the important points being made because they may not have clicked on it in the first place.
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Re: Any laws/restriction when erecting a driveway fence ?

Postby arborlad » Tue May 30, 2017 8:05 am

SarahSue wrote:I am in complete agreement with ElmerFudd here re starting separate threads. One particular issue has different elements and each of these often warrant a thread in a separate category. It can get complicated. My own issue began as wondering if I potentially had a boundary issue (posted in boundary section). I got excellent advice there from the good people on this forum. Once established that there was no boundary issue, my next dilemma was how to put up some kind of screening. I then posted in the fencing section. My next issue was that my neighbour had attempted to damage some bushes (caught on CCTV) and another thread in another section.
If people had read all this under one thread, they would have missed potentially some of the important points being made because they may not have clicked on it in the first place.




You are still missing the point, it was only when some of your multiple threads were linked to your original thread did others become aware of them. With everything fragmented, divided and duplicated amongst multiple threads, you've vastly increased your chances that something will be missed - with everything under the umbrella of one thread, you've vastly increased your chances that nothing will be missed.
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Re: Any laws/restriction when erecting a driveway fence ?

Postby ElmerFudd » Tue May 30, 2017 9:30 am

arborlad..... This seems to be your opinion and it's not a rule of the forum.

I can understand your point, if or when a forum member opens multiple threads of the same question but on this occasion my original thread, the initial question had been answered and the thread went off its original subject, such as the current topic.

Other forum members answered my second thread without a problem and you could of too but you dicided, without asking to merge my second thread/question into this thread, which I was capable of doing so myself but didn't because I decided I wanted my other question and its discussion to be a separate thread.

Currently, you are responding to a totally different subject within my original thread, which is a perfect example why I opened a different thread for a different question, so its response wouldn't be buried within all the pages of this thread.
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Re: Any laws/restriction when erecting a driveway fence ?

Postby arborlad » Tue May 30, 2017 11:47 am

ElmerFudd wrote:So, the only requirement is the height of the fence adjacent to the highway, which I dont think will be a problem due to the current height of the privet hedge of my neighbours property, also, I don't plan to erect a fence higher than 3ft, well 900mm.




ElmerFudd wrote:My other thread, a question about the height of a fence next to a road etc, is a totally different question and separate to this thread, the question doesn't repeat what has been discussed within this thread.




I disagree...............but hey - what do I know :?
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Re: Any laws/restriction when erecting a driveway fence ?

Postby ElmerFudd » Tue May 30, 2017 3:21 pm

arborlad......

You are splitting hairs and you obviously have more time on you hands than most.

The section of this thread which you've trawled through to prove a point, is only a brief comment which no one elaborated on because I dismissed it...... That is why my second thread, because this thread had digressed, just like it's doing now, stated " Clarify fence height next to road/pavement ?

The use of the word "Clarify" is to confirm something that has been stated previously.

When posting, I had no idea the level of response received or how much detail would be provided and, as I keep saying, for my benefit and for the benefit of forum members, I want replies kept separate rather than be buried within page 3 or 4 of this thread that has a completely different heading.

This thread has ran its course, my question about laws, restrictions and erecting a fence has been answered

arborlad, you're the only one who chose to answers my second thread within this thread.

It's not your responsibility to Police this forum and decide where I or anyone else can post a thread.
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