Where to measure fence height from?

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justarookie
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Where to measure fence height from?

Post by justarookie » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:52 pm

I have a terrace back garden which is on 2 levels with the top level being about 2m higher than the lower level - it is not a slope but a clean 2m jump with steep steps up. This is exactly the same as the neighbour's garden.

I would like to put a 2m fence on the top level of the back garden between my side and the neighbours - is this ok? I tried to read about the exact details but it seems confusing. Is it measured from the ground immediately adjacent? There is already a fence on the other side of the neighbours garden which is on the top level and is at least 2m in height (would be well over 4m if measured to the bottom level of the garden) but that fence has been there since the houses were built about 10 years ago.

The neighbour is a really difficult guy and is insisting that it must be measured from the lower level which seems silly as a 2m fence would suddenly be seen as a 4m fence. In that case how would any fencing get built where there is a gradient in ground level?

Any help appreciated.

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Re: Where to measure fence height from?

Post by Morgan Sweet » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:11 am

Surely you measure from the ground the fence is to be sited on.

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Re: Where to measure fence height from?

Post by Collaborate » Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:02 am

For planning purposes (permitted development) you measure from the land under the fence. https://www.planningni.gov.uk/index/... ... fences.htm

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Re: Where to measure fence height from?

Post by IdefixUK » Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:39 am

Collaborate wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:02 am
For planning purposes (permitted development) you measure from the land under the fence. https://www.planningni.gov.uk/index/... ... fences.htm
That link is relevant to development in Northern Ireland, and in some respects may differ from the English version. However it does seem to make sense to measure from the ground immediately beneath the proposed fence.

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Re: Where to measure fence height from?

Post by FilthWizzard » Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:30 pm

Note that if the ground height has been altered from the original, which may be the case here, you need to measure from the original ground height.

So, if the lower end has been lowered the fence can be taller (though not higher) because the rule is 2m from the original ground height, which means the fence can be the same height all along. Conversely if the bottom of the garden has been raised, the height must be measured from the lower level so the fence must be shorter than 2m on the raised portion. Again though, it would be the same height all along.

If the garden was sloped originally, so the back was raised at the point of the step but is still at the original height when it reaches the rear of the garden (levelled), then the fence can start out shorter and gradually increase to 2m at the bottom of the garden. In this situation it can still be at 2m in the section before the step.

Alternatively, if everyone else has done the same thing, copy them. Right or wrong, if everyone's done the same thing you will be unlikely to draw criticism.

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Re: Where to measure fence height from?

Post by justarookie » Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:23 pm

Thanks all for your replies!

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Re: Where to measure fence height from?

Post by Clifford Pope » Sun Feb 23, 2020 4:45 pm

If the lower part is 2m lower than theupper, and is really supposed to be the datum for the upper fence height, then no fence at all would be permitted in the upper section. :)

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