Neighbour's quadcopter camera over my garden

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Rosenberg
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Re: Neighbour's quadcopter camera over my garden

Post by Rosenberg » Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:00 pm

arborlad wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 6:37 pm
Rosenberg wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 6:29 pm

Until such time that the OP reports that these two people have come back and actually engaged in a criminal act, it would seem only reasonable to reserve judgement.

...............ever heard of crime prevention???....................you've lost the plot!!!!
I've heard of "intelligence-led policing", if that's what you mean. Where would your approach fit in?

Fortunately, the English legal system is not based upon the premise of "arrest everyone who looks a bit dodgy". As I have said several times before, if the OP was in genuine fear of a crime, she should have called the police immediately. The fact that she thought it more appropriate to wait and then report it to "Judge Arborlad" on gardenlaw.co.uk, should tell you just how unimportant she really thought it was.

Why don't you approach Channel Five with a programme idea? You could jump on the day-time TV-court bandwaggon with "Judge Arborlad", a comedy figure who comes up with unjust, yet hilarious, judgements on real-world cases - you know, a bit like Judge Rinder, but incorporating no element of the law whatsoever. I'd watch it for all the times you'd don your little black death-sentence cap. Or you could try ITV: I hear they are looking for a replacement programme to suit the Jeremy Kyle demographic.
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Re: Neighbour's quadcopter camera over my garden

Post by arborlad » Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:06 pm

Rosenberg wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:00 pm
arborlad wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 6:37 pm
Rosenberg wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 6:29 pm

Until such time that the OP reports that these two people have come back and actually engaged in a criminal act, it would seem only reasonable to reserve judgement.



...............ever heard of crime prevention???....................you've lost the plot!!!!....................or perhaps the reason the OP didn't have to return and report a crime was she listened to wise words from knowledgeable people - not your piffle!!
Fortunately, the English legal system is not based upon the premise of "arrest everyone who looks a bit dodgy". As I have said several times before, if the OP was in genuine fear of a crime, she should have called the police immediately. The fact that she thought it more appropriate to wait and then report it to "Judge Arborlad" on gardenlaw.co.uk, should tell you just how unimportant she really thought it was.

Why don't you approach Channel Five with a programme idea? You could jump on the day-time TV-court bandwaggon with "Judge Arborlad", a comedy figure who comes up with unjust, yet hilarious, judgements on real-world cases - you know, a bit like Judge Rinder, but incorporating no element of the law whatsoever. I'd watch it for all the times you'd don your little black death-sentence cap. Or you could try ITV: I hear they are looking for a replacement programme to suit the Jeremy Kyle demographic. You'd fit in perfectly.
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Re: Neighbour's quadcopter camera over my garden

Post by Rosenberg » Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:13 pm

arborlad wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:06 pm
Rosenberg wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:00 pm
arborlad wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 6:37 pm

...............ever heard of crime prevention???....................you've lost the plot!!!!....................or perhaps the reason the OP didn't have to return and report a crime was she listened to wise words from knowledgeable people - not your piffle!!
So you are quoting yourself and rewriting your own quotes at the same time. Are you drunk? You appear to be contradicting yourself.

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Re: Neighbour's quadcopter camera over my garden

Post by Morgan Sweet » Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:50 pm

Welcome back Rosenberg. The reason that I wrote I would prefer not to have you as a neighbour is due to nothing more than I hate having to listen to other people's music.

Your suggestions, however, that one particular poster could use his talents on the television medium of communication is quite perceptive.

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Re: Neighbour's quadcopter camera over my garden

Post by Rosenberg » Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:17 pm

Morgan Sweet wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:50 pm
Welcome back Rosenberg. The reason that I wrote I would prefer not to have you as a neighbour is due to nothing more than I hate having to listen to other people's music.

Your suggestions, however, that one particular poster could use his talents on the television medium of communication is quite perceptive.
Thanks for the welcome Morgan Sweet. I quite understand what you mean about about the music. Most people wouldn't like it. My son, who is no longer living with us, did want to play his music quite a lot (like many teenagers), but we tried to limit the use of his hi-fi/mixer, both in volume and frequency. It was only occasional, in fact, but I do understand that not knowing when it might start and how long it might continue is one of the most annoying aspects of a noise problem so we even tried to schedule it with the neighbour so the music didn't inconvenience him. Unfortunately, the neighbour was having none of it and created quite a fuss. When I mentioned the situation on the forum, certain members did a pick-and-mix job on what I'd said in order to exaggerate the problem and make out that I was being grossly unreasonable.

Not for the first (or probably last) time was I adjudged guilty by "his honour".

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Re: Neighbour's quadcopter camera over my garden

Post by arborlad » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:22 am

Rosenberg wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 12:04 am

Arborlad, I am still waiting for an answer to the question I asked you 5 years ago. But you clammed up didn't you. I wonder why that was.



I believe the question to be a fiction, non-existent, a product of your imagination..................
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Re: Neighbour's quadcopter camera over my garden

Post by Morgan Sweet » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:54 am

Rosenberg wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 12:04 am

Arborlad, I am still waiting for an answer to the question I asked you 5 years ago. But you clammed up didn't you. I wonder why that was.
May I suggest Rosenberg, when dealing with any legal matters it is most important that you follow the accepted protocols. It is not (normally) the correct protocol to ask a question of a Judge and expect an answer, the predominant role of a Judge is to make rulings.

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Re: Neighbour's quadcopter camera over my garden

Post by arborlad » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:20 am

Morgan Sweet wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:50 pm
The reason that I wrote I would prefer not to have you as a neighbour is due to nothing more than I hate having to listen to other people's music.



Music aside - how would you feel about a neighbour who drives over your land and gets all uppity when you prevent it, and sheds surface water onto it?

If Rosenberg's neighbour had joined the Forum at the time and asked for advice on the trespass - without exception the advice would be to erect something to prevent it!!!
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Re: Neighbour's quadcopter camera over my garden

Post by Morgan Sweet » Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:03 pm

arborlad wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:20 am
Morgan Sweet wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:50 pm
The reason that I wrote I would prefer not to have you as a neighbour is due to nothing more than I hate having to listen to other people's music.



Music aside - how would you feel about a neighbour who drives over your land and gets all uppity when you prevent it, and sheds surface water onto it?
To answer your question, I would not be too happy about it. In saying that, I do have neighbours who repeatedly ride horses over my drive way and use my drive as a vehicle turning area and passing bay but I am quite content for them to be my neighbours. It is surely dependant on the degree of aggravation. I did once close off my drive but it caused such a nuisance for everyone wanting to pass on a narrow single track road that I removed it (to be neighbourly). I can not abide unwanted music however, M'Lud.
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Re: Neighbour's quadcopter camera over my garden

Post by arborlad » Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:06 pm

Morgan Sweet wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:03 pm
arborlad wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:20 am
Morgan Sweet wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:50 pm
The reason that I wrote I would prefer not to have you as a neighbour is due to nothing more than I hate having to listen to other people's music.



Music aside - how would you feel about a neighbour who drives over your land and gets all uppity when you prevent it, and sheds surface water onto it?
To answer your question, I would not be too happy about it. In saying that, I do have neighbours who repeatedly ride horses over my drive way and use my drive as a vehicle turning area and passing bay but I am quite content for them to be my neighbours. It is surely dependant on the degree of aggravation. I did once close off my drive but it caused such a nuisance for everyone wanting to pass on a narrow single track road that I removed it (to be neighbourly). I can not abide unwanted music however.


...............and the surface water?
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Re: Neighbour's quadcopter camera over my garden

Post by Morgan Sweet » Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:22 pm

M'Lud, it would be dependant on the amount of surface water.

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Re: Neighbour's quadcopter camera over my garden

Post by arborlad » Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:26 pm

Morgan Sweet wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:22 pm
M'Lud, it would be dependant on the amount of surface water.



No - it wouldn't, there is no amount of surface water you can shed onto your neighbours land.
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Re: Neighbour's quadcopter camera over my garden

Post by arborlad » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:40 pm

Rosenberg wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:00 pm
I've heard of "intelligence-led policing", if that's what you mean.



That's an interesting choice of words, the OP in that thread did the right thing by reporting it to the police and giving the details, if there's another incident involving a van with two occupants but no details, the police can join the dots and the scrotes will be apprehended more swiftly.

The scrotes on the other hand are on an intelligence gathering exercise if they manage to gain access, they will notice the weak lock on the patio door, they will notice the expensive mower in an unlocked shed, they will notice the ladder tucked behind the garage, they will notice the dummy cameras from the real ones................
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Re: Neighbour's quadcopter camera over my garden

Post by Morgan Sweet » Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:40 pm

arborlad wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:26 pm
Morgan Sweet wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:22 pm
M'Lud, it would be dependant on the amount of surface water.



No - it wouldn't, there is no amount of surface water you can shed onto your neighbours land.
There you go, once again Arborlad, you did not comprehend the answer to the question you poised. You asked me how I would feel about a neighbour shedding water on to my land. I then replied that it would be dependant on the amount of surface water. Your response to my answer lacks understanding of both the question that you asked and my reply.

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Re: Neighbour's quadcopter camera over my garden

Post by MacadamB53 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:30 pm

Hi arborlad,

you: how would you [Morgan Sweet] feel about a neighbour who... ...sheds surface water onto it [your land]?

MS: it would be dependant on the amount of surface water

you: No - it wouldn’t, there is no amount of surface water you can shed onto your neighbours land.

I understand the point you’re trying to make, but the above makes no sense because your question never mentioned MS shedding water onto his neighbour’s land?!?

kind regards, Mac

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