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troiddoinepoicu-4310
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I am planning to buy a flat and the home report is saying "Some decorative surfaces are finished with an Artex type product. Early
forms of Artex may incorporate small amounts of asbestos based bonding
materials ...".
Is it possible to remove asbestos? If yes, Is it going to be very expensive to do this?
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It cost me £480 inc VAT to remove 19 sq m of artex ceiling last week.
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It was possible to research when Artex no longer contained any traces of asbestos using a Google search?
Until 1984 the Artex coating was made with white asbestos to strengthen it. Therefore old Artex manufactured by Artex Ltd. will contain asbestos while Artex coatings applied after 2000 may or may not contain asbestos.
When I was erecting houses between 1993 and 2008 there was no indication that the artex being used by the specialist sub-contractor had asbestos in it.

No one took any precautions, such as wearing masks or goggles when ceilings were being treated, so it seemed unlikely that modern artex included asbestos.
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No one took any precautions, such as wearing masks or goggles when ceilings were being treated,
Perhaps thats why they are dying today ? https://www.hse.gov.uk/statistics/causd ... isease.pdf

Phone an asbestos company to have it sampled and tested to confirm either way if it contains asbestos. Its not expensive for a sample to be tested.

The use of asbestos in products was completely banned in 1999. It is there fore generally accepted that any post 2000 buildings or work carried out after 2000 will not contain asbestos. There is another school of thought that says not every DIY store and builders merchants cleared there shelves of old product.
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It's well known that some people quote the expression "Ignorance is bliss".

In that case it was good that I had no idea that Artex was supposed to include asbestos when I was erecting new houses from 1993 onwards.

I started building my own house in March 2000 and moved into the house in April 2001 when I was 59 years old.

The ceilings in every room in the house were finished using a textured coating, which may or may not have been the product marketed by Artex, because the sub-contractor I had been using for new houses since 1993 just arrived when required and dealt with each job as requested.

Now that I am 80 years old the comments made on this posting have made me start researching some of the web-sites that explain the problems that asbestos can cause.

One web-site for a company that specialises in testing for asbestos included a summary of what problems may be caused by textured ceilings, although I was relieved to note two separate comments on that site.
Artex, Marblecoat, Newtex, Pebblecoat were some of the trade names for what we in the industry refer to as a ‘textured coating’ that used to contain asbestos and were used on ceilings and walls.

These asbestos products were applied internally and externally to properties up until around 1984. They have also been used since that date but without the use of asbestos.
As a company the latest we have found asbestos present in textured coatings in a property is 1985.
Having read that article, I can now begin to sleep more easily without worrying about taking too many deep breaths each night while facing the ceiling in my bedroom.
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I'm pleased Pilman :D

To provide further clarification, existing artex coated walls or ceilings present no significant risk. It is only when you disturb it by removal, or drilling that asbestos fibres maybe released into the air where you might breath them. Similar goes for the many asbestos roof sheets still on our garages and sheds. They are safe in situ, it's only when they break up or degrade they start to pose a risk. Even then the percentage of asbestos is very low.
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troiddoinepoicu-4310 wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:07 pm I am planning to buy a flat and the home report is saying "Some decorative surfaces are finished with an Artex type product. Early
forms of Artex may incorporate small amounts of asbestos based bonding
materials ...".
Is it possible to remove asbestos? If yes, Is it going to be very expensive to do this?

Most people deal with artex etc by Skimming it
Any information provided is not legal advice and you are advised to gain a professional opinion
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